Hello Its me again, There doesn't seem to be anything else written by GWD. I'm trying to speak to the Bodleian chappy direct rather than by email so we'll see what he has to say. We're getting better at digging and lifting rocks. I rather feel there's a huge mountain still to go.

The opening words of a lovely old Nat King Cole song spring into mind..[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVchcNt9610[/YOUTUBE]

Let's raise that mountain.

Shizara- what can I say- you have taken me back to 2-3/4 years old.(+that -we left and came here when I was 7) My Mother used to play 'Old Nat' and sing to my Dad when we lived in Libya. How the heck do you put that on the site? Can you put 'Fallen Leaves' on . And Yes, I have faith. I emailed the National Archives in India today- didn't get a chance to speak to the Bodleian Library chap- my pet rat died yesterday and his brother died this morning-no warning. Both unexpected, both awful losses. Both such characters and great friends. Thank you, you've made me think more. What a friend.
Just got returned email from the India Archives peeps- email address won't deliver. I got it from the 'Who do you think you are' link on the BBC website- does anyone have any ideas as to how to progress this?

YouTube - Autumn Leaves - Nat King Cole You've got me on memory lane now. I don't know how to put music on the site like that but here's the link to Nat King Cole's 'Autumn Leaves' That's what I meant. Still no connection to The India Archives. It's a stitch up

Dear Shizara- and all who are interested and helping. The Bodleian Library now say they have 2 copies of the book not the origional. They say they don't know where that is. The Rootschat Peeps gave me a link toThe India Office that actually works. I've sent them an email. I haven't heard back from WD- I think he's been reading the threads. Anyway, I got a reply from the solicitor-he says who ever has the book -its thiers.(Posession is 9 tenths of the law?spelling)He has suggested we look at The Cosmopolitan Records Office- I'm not quite sure what or where that is except it is in London. More treacle....

Am so sorry to hear of the deaths of your pet rats. Pets are often loved as an extension of the family and their loss is really felt.

Am currently holiday, but, as is typical of me, I have my trusty laptop and am depending upon the sites that we have posted information as well as memory to continue searching. I have my mobile phone connected to the laptop as a modem. Slow, but am mostly only browsing, sending emails and posting on forums.

When posting here, if you go to Go Advanced tab it will show a YouTube icon. I use that and put the url in between. You will get the option to check to be sure it looks right.

I heard back from the Paisley Library but with information we have already found. Am about to post on a couple of other messageboards. Brick walls and red tape just make you more determined.

Thank you Shizara, We have been sad and missing these little characters. I really think the heat got to them. Anyway, I hope you are enjoying your hols. I emailed The India office and this time it went thru. As yet I haven't had any reply but it has only been 2 days. I'll give them until tomorrow and then I'll prompt. They may be as gobsmacked as I am and scratching heads etc- that's being hopeful b'cos if they are it means they have info and are joining the dots. I haven't heard back from the historian chappy for Hailebury College either, I'll definitely prompt him. My solicitor has responded with the advice to try The Metropolitan Office in London though he said it's better to go there. He also said that if The Bodley have the book-it's thiers. I have established they don't have the origional; just 2 copies. So the search goes on....Treacle, marmalade, redtape and brickwalls I told Mum about The Indai link possibilty- she said she thought this was 'it'. Not quite sure what she meant but I'll ask again. I have to say she has always talked of India as my Father's Father served there and so did his father. (Another side of the family yet to unfurl- The Barefoot side which may also link with The Winters before the marriages because of India )

There is quite a story unfolding in here and am sure there is much more to come.

It all seems to have come to a grinding holt. I haven't heard back from The India Office. I prompted them again on Friday. Maybe they'll reply this week. It seems as though we've stumbled upon a historical situation that 'they' didn't or don't want unearthed. It was buried for posterity for reasons we assume possibley relate to the mixing of two cultures and royalties. However, the genes live on - The Warrior, The Soldier and The Explorer amongst others.

Interracial marriages in 19th century India | UK news | The Guardian I have replied to this through The Guardian's 'contact us' link. We'll see what happens if anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVchcNt9610http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVchcNt9610
This is required

Rootschat peeps have told me to be patient cos when it goes quiet, things can happen or else to go to NAS to see James' Will. I think it's in London though- I need to calrify that. There's nothing on the airwaves at all now- I know that means we've found the last link required to sort it all out. Help all who may and Thanks to all who have. Mummy is extremely perplexed at this India connection. For some unknown reason she understands Nawabs etc- I didn't.

Don't give up. It isn't unusual for things to go quiet for a while. I am still researching this end and waiting for responses.

Thanks Shizara, I need to keep focused because it seems all our stones have been turned. The last few have not replied so either they don't know/can't be bothered or there's stuff that they have but can't/won't share. Or hopefully, as it is complex, they may be researching it. Coutts and Co, definitley have info but they have a stitch-up clause that says they 'don't have to tell if they don't want to and they don't have to tell you why either'. Maybe a step outside the box is required? How would one find out about Nawabs and thier families? The India Office haven't replied at all. There is another web link for thier archives on The BBC 'Who do they think they are' site but it doesn't work.I thought of contacting The Beeb anyway but there's a general 'contact us' link not a specific one. History has been sort of glossed over and the people it relates to have been dealt a similar treatment. It feels a bit like a crusade now.

Sent you a PM. Will let you know the response if/when I get one.

Shizara Thank you, I saw that and have replied. I am now in the position where my PM boxes are full and I don't know how to empty them without losing stuff. I've made some folders which has freed up space but I still don't know what to do to save things.Can you direct me please- I know it seems stupid but I am!!!!
Going to listen to NAT now ...

If I need to reduce the size of my message folders and need to keep the contents of any of them I have a folder on my desktop, copy/paste the things I need to save into Notepad and put into the folder. Then I can empty out the message folder thus making space again.