Thanks Shizara, I'm definitely stupid! Anyway, I've posted a request on The War Ships website. Hopefully some one out there will have some info on M.F.M. Donna Maria(1834) and a bit more direction to find detail on Midshipman William Dawson.

I'm so worried that we are now at 'the wall' and we'll never get the last few vital pieces of info. Where else to look? The India Archives have failed to repsond to my requests from the 3 emails I have sent them. I feel sure the stuff we need is there. How do you find out about Nawabs? Anyone know?

I may be slightly 'off piste' but this has really raised my suspicions that any records of outcome for Lieut.Col. James, Mooti and thier children may be dubious. I found this at FIBIS today. I thought a while back that if GWD was bron in 1800, that James dying that year was both very sad and premature or untrue especially as the codicile to his will refers to a 2nd daughter McBean in 1871 who must have been an elderly lady then. Things just don't add up but there again they weren't meant.What do you think?
Year of Death 1829
First Names J.
Surname Dalrymple
Date of Death 9 - Jan
IOR Reference None
Source Name East India Register
Source Year 1830
Source Edition 2
Source Presidency Madras
Source Event Death
Entry Lieut.- col. J. Dalrymple, H. M.'s 30th regt.
Transcribed by FIBIS Volunteers

Hello, I've just had a reply from a chap at APAC British Library, a researcher. He says he can't find anything but did find Lieut.Col.James born to Hew and Dorothea Dalrymple 1758-1804, he was an officer of The Bengal Army but is reported to have died without issue. Not him I know but it goes to show how many Lieut.Col.James Dalrymples we're digging through.(excuse the pun)

He didn't really comment on Mooti and the family she may have come from. I think I stumped him.

I followed up my email enquiry for the will and it seems they have it in their department now, they don't see any problems with copying and will send me an estimate - which, when compared with the cost of train travel will be very little. - See your PMs..

Its exciting this-- great news. Thank you.
I set out with this to lift my Mum in her elderly years as she was faced with a health problem never before having been ill at 88. She was fast declining into a depression. I decided that at her age as some one who had never really known the truth of her origins but had speculated on the 'back stair whispers' that I should try to help 'tie up'these ends. The 'backstair whispers' she recalls were around 'grand maori' origins and an Earl. She never ever knew about Indian Royal connections. I think Granny Agnes knew but never divulged at all, it is possible she didn't know but it was a secret left with GSWD and his Father etc above.I am now left wondering if we actually manage to put all the pieces together, what now? It is a huge story. I'd like to know how we would find out about Mooti's family? I think that may take us on a journey and we haven't even begun the Winters and the Barefoot side of things.(pls excuse spelling mistakes and grammar, I am dyslexic and find doing it right at this time after a hard day of swine flu-just impossible.)

I received an email from the archivist today and all set to roll on Monday. I doubt they are open tomorrow, though will try, but failing that, Monday will phone and arrange for the copies. There is a document for me to sign regarding the copywrite. I will take whatever details I need from them and you can have the copies, they are your family documents and something precious to have.

Oh Shizara, I am so filled with excitement about this. Thank you. I'm taking 'Her Royal Highness' to lunch tomorrow and will share this with her then. Thank you.

I have a hunch this link is about Mooti's Father. It gives his wife's name as well.

Nawab Sayyid Ghulam Muhammad Ali Khan I Bahadur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your hunch may well be right. Have been browsing through websites I have found about the Nawabs. They make interesting reading.

I've been trying to unravel them as well. Its more treacle!

I've been speaking tonight with my friends who origionally started to look at my family tree stuff.(That's thier relaxation thing) They are the ones who went off on thier world wide cruise. He asked me tonight if I'd found the cinnection to Mary Queen of Scots- which we haven't but I'm not sure where to look now. Any ideas? He says his searches didn't find Indian ones but he said he went down another branch- not sure which one...

To be honest, I haven't even looked at the Mary Queen of Scots aspect yet. But will get on to that shortly and see what that turns up. In the meantime have spoken to the archivist, made the necessary arrangements and am now awaiting a document I have to sign regarding copywrite. Once that is done and they get it back then the documents we are interested in will be posted.

Have had a quick look and found this url:

RootsWeb: GENBRIT-L Mary, Queen of Scots descendants

There are truckloads of Dalrymple people in there. I started making a list and thought, crikey, will be here forever. - Giggles

Blimey- Its a huge task. What has always puzzled me is how and where did the 'Weymss' get added to Dalrymple when :Lieut.Col.James was Dalrymple on his own and Mooti was Indian?
I've been digging again. I looked thru the NAS and fiddled about putting in searches for Mcbean,Watson, Dalrymple and Stair. The Mcbean search gave me 8 items and I think this may be of interest to us- CS 314/675, the Watson search threw up CS314/695. They may not be anything relating to 'our' Watsons but if you have time when you're there, they may be helpful to glance at. Also FOR STAIR SEARCH- legal papers GD135/1608-1776, Also in Stair but under family papers in the Dalrymple file-GD135/2031-2108. I think your time will fly and will be frustrating because you'll want to stay longer to read more.Its exciting except I'm also a bit nervey incase nothing shows. Oh, can't dwell on that. Forward, onward etc ...

The documents I have ordered are the ones that contain the will for Lieut-Col James Dalrymple and it includes letters from E McBean to her sister and from her sister to another Dalrymple.