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 optrex wrote: You need to put his quotes in context Jobee. Einstein very clearly believed in God.
He recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe and this actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist:
"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details."
Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed.
A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Optrex-the church told lies about einstein-as they are telling lies about lots of things INCLUDING tax exemptions ----08450-302-0203
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
[Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press]
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chillitt wrote: clearly you dont have to die to know nothing....  you still haven't proved there is no heaven.. do you want to try prove there is no god, instead? Indeed-the only way your going to find out if god and heaven exist IS
to die-i cannot see any use in postulating and advocating it as truth down here without a 'great deal' more proof than already exists-indeed after that
huge psunami several priests did resign as it was substantial proof that a 'caring' god does not exist-
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Dunno why you care so much as to feel the need to go round pushing your views on other people. You remind me of erm, yes a witness knocking at my door, keeping me talking so that my tea goes cold.
You'll be telling me father christmas doesn't exist next. 
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optrex wrote:  What planet are you on? I am on the 'dying' planet called earth-but the church wont tell its 'customers'
the planet is dying it might affect their income-
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optrex wrote: Of course, its what you fail to omit that is most relevant.
AE in childhood was a devout Jew. He even took lessons to combat the Christian teachings of his schooling. As he discovered science, he discarded his religon, but not his faith. HE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD !!!!!
Then, the most important aspect that you fail to mention, he returned to his faith in later life, mainly due to the effects of WW2. The jews DO NOT believe in god- they just say 'god is' and build a whole way of life around those two words-the search for god they are not interested in.
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Madhatter wrote: Dunno why you care so much as to feel the need to go round pushing your views on other people. You remind me of erm, yes a witness knocking at my door, keeping me talking so that my tea goes cold. You'll be telling me father christmas doesn't exist next. OF course father christmas exists i saw him in woolies this year-hes not as old as god though he needs polli filla in his wrinkles-
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We all know it's going to die, the planet, but it won't be in my lifetime and you don't come back so as long as I do my bit for it while I'm alive thats all i'm bothered with.
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If they say god is, they must have one. 
They're probably the most boring religion going because they keep going on and on.
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[quote="Madhatter"]We all know it's going to die, the planet, but it won't be in my lifetime and you don't come back so as long as I do my bit for it while I'm alive thats all i'm bothered with. [/QUOTE
BUT I AM INTERESTED- In a matured human life and the conquest of space.
I am not interested in 'head in the sand' ******s like religions leaders- Humanity MUST stand alone -not keep asking daddy/god for favours.
Confidence-SOMETHING religion never had- we must smash organised religion-
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john, dont forget, Jesus loves you...
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LOL Chillitt.
John, I seem to remember you posting something about being against organised religon. You also stated that it should not be forced onto people, but should be private and behind closed doors.
I would be very grateful therefore if you would keep to that basis with regards to your own religous views.
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lol, out did my link get changed to that from what I put?
Watchdogging, is that what they call it when you just watch people dogging 
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Madhatter wrote: lol, out did my link get changed to that from what I put?
The SEO software on the forum will replace the url to that of the actual page title. Its very useful, as all you need do is paste the url in, rather than mess about making it look pretty. However on this occasion they seem to have taken a liberty on the webpage design and given it a ludicrously long title - lol
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That title reminds me of one of those bibble bashing americans, or a devil worshiper.
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