Topic review - Syria's Civil War
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rebbonk
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:01 pm
Shocking. Trouble is, that once we hit conflict, life becomes very cheap.
Shocking. Trouble is, that once we hit conflict, life becomes very cheap.
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Lex
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:53 pm
Atrocities in this conflict have reached a new level: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37417898
Atrocities in this conflict have reached a new level: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37417898[/url]
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rebbonk
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:09 pm
If I were one of those in B&B I'd be mightily p*ssed off if Syrians (or any other immigrant) jumped the housing queue above me.
We really need to sort our existing problems before taking on those of others.
If I were one of those in B&B I'd be mightily p*ssed off if Syrians (or any other immigrant) jumped the housing queue above me.
We really need to sort our existing problems before taking on those of others.
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Lex
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:24 pm
Looks like Rugby will be taking sme refugees in: [url]http://www.rugbyadvertiser.co.uk/news/local-news/syrian-refugees-may-be-housed-in-rugby-1-7241858[/url]
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Lex
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:23 pm
Whoops! Apparently, his main business interest out there is an oil company; the Daily Mail will love that one!
Whoops! Apparently, his main business interest out there is an oil company; the Daily Mail will love that one!
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rebbonk
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:03 pm
Quote: If Zahawi voted for this, he did so because he could see some personal advantage and he won't give a fig for the mayhem, death and destruction caused. Sadly, that is the nature of the beast. According to at least one website today, Zahawi has been caught selling ISIS oil!
[quote]If Zahawi voted for this, he did so because he could see some personal advantage and he won't give a fig for the mayhem, death and destruction caused. Sadly, that is the nature of the beast.[/quote]
According to at least one website today, Zahawi has been caught selling ISIS oil!
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cathidaw
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:21 am
They have a totally different mind set, their culture is different, so we cannot possibly understand how they will react.
Too late now, but I believe they should have left them alone, and not ever have interfered in their lives-- unless it it drought or famine.
This may not be relevant, but when , as a little child at Sunday school we had missionary speakers , who came collecting money for the poor little black children living in-let's say Africa-and who had never heard of 'our' God, and why these speakers just had to go over there to teach Christianity and save the poor little heathens, I used to think 'why?' when they seemed very happy with their own kind of beliefs and freedom, why not leave them alone.
But of course as usual the western world-it appeared, mainly Britain, had to interfere, and change peoples lives. and make a great mess of it.
They have a totally different mind set, their culture is different, so we cannot possibly understand how they will react.
Too late now, but I believe they should have left them alone, and not [i]ever[/i] have interfered in their lives-- unless it it drought or famine.
This may not be relevant, but when , as a little child at Sunday school we had missionary speakers , who came collecting money for the poor little black children living in-let's say Africa-and who had never heard of 'our' God, and why these speakers just had to go over there to teach Christianity and save the poor little heathens, I used to think 'why?' when they seemed very happy with their own kind of beliefs and freedom, why not leave them alone.
But of course as usual the western world-it appeared, mainly Britain, had to interfere, and change peoples lives. and make a great mess of it.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:40 pm
This will sound horribly racist, but it isn't.
The problem that we have is that we don't understand these people. They have values so very different from ours and many of their ways are simply barbaric. One day they are fighting with you, the next day (for reasons unknown to you) they are fighting against you.
Anyone who has spent time in the ME amongst the 'natives' will tell you this. Sadly, our idiot politicians think that these people are just like us and that you can negotiate with them: you can't!
If Zahawi voted for this, he did so because he could see some personal advantage and he won't give a fig for the mayhem, death and destruction caused. Sadly, that is the nature of the beast.
Make no mistake, these people see kindness and generosity as weaknesses to be used and exploited. In my opinion, this action will come back and bite us on the ar$e, very likely via the enemy within.
This will sound horribly racist, but it isn't.
The problem that we have is that we don't understand these people. They have values so very different from ours and many of their ways are simply barbaric. One day they are fighting with you, the next day (for reasons unknown to you) they are fighting against you.
Anyone who has spent time in the ME amongst the 'natives' will tell you this. Sadly, our idiot politicians think that these people are just like us and that you can negotiate with them: you can't!
If Zahawi voted for this, he did so because he could see some personal advantage and he won't give a fig for the mayhem, death and destruction caused. Sadly, that is the nature of the beast.
Make no mistake, these people see kindness and generosity as weaknesses to be used and exploited. In my opinion, this action will come back and bite us on the ar$e, very likely via the enemy within.
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Lex
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:02 pm
I have a feeling Nadhim Zahawi would have voted for bombing Syria/ISIS no matter what, as he has family and business connections to Kurdistan, which I can understand.
I have a feeling Nadhim Zahawi would have voted for bombing Syria/ISIS no matter what, as he has family and business connections to Kurdistan, which I can understand.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:09 pm
I wrote to my MP about this. She voted against my wishes. I'd like to know just how many requests she had to vote for it! To be fair, she did write back to me explaining why she voted the way she did, but without knowing what her other constituents wanted I'm none the wiser. Frankly, I doubt she understood the implications (and the same goes for far too many other MPs).
I wrote to my MP about this. She voted against my wishes. I'd like to know just how many requests she had to vote for it! To be fair, she did write back to me explaining why she voted the way she did, but without knowing what her other constituents wanted I'm none the wiser. Frankly, I doubt she understood the implications (and the same goes for far too many other MPs).
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Lex
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:27 pm
Here's a list of how our local MPs voted: [url]http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/ten-regions-mps-voted-air-10541507[/url]
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Lex
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:20 pm
Sadly, this will come back and bite us in the behind if the 'allied governments', Syria, Iraq, rebel groups, Kurds, Russians etc. don't sort out some sort of political solution that will bring some peace & stability to the region.
Sadly, this will come back and bite us in the behind if the 'allied governments', Syria, Iraq, rebel groups, Kurds, Russians etc. don't sort out some sort of political solution that will bring some peace & stability to the region.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:14 pm
Air strikes will solve nothing, but will leave many innocents dead and wounded.
I'm not against using military force. But we need a proper strategy, including an exit plan.
Air strikes will solve nothing, but will leave many innocents dead and wounded.
I'm not against using military force. But we need a proper strategy, including an exit plan.
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Lex
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:35 pm
Air Strikes in Syria
Frankly, no-one has considered this carefully. This will be the usual 'bomb the b******s to look like the government is doing something about ISIS to keep the voters happy, then b****r off leaving Syria in a worse mess than before we turned up'. Obviously, nobody over the last 35 years has bothered taking note that doing this without planning for the aftermath & what to do once the bombing's finished causes more problems than it solves.
http://www.rugbyadvertiser.co.uk/news/local-news/rugby-s-mp-is-in-favour-of-airstrikes-against-isis-in-syria-1-7096229
Frankly, no-one has considered this carefully. This will be the usual 'bomb the b******s to look like the government is doing something about ISIS to keep the voters happy, then b****r off leaving Syria in a worse mess than before we turned up'. Obviously, nobody over the last 35 years has bothered taking note that doing this without planning for the aftermath & what to do once the bombing's finished causes more problems than it solves.
[url]http://www.rugbyadvertiser.co.uk/news/local-news/rugby-s-mp-is-in-favour-of-airstrikes-against-isis-in-syria-1-7096229[/url]
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rebbonk
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:45 pm
Turkey Calls For NATO Meeting Over Syria Crisis
Quote: Turkey has called for an extraordinary meeting of NATO to discuss the escalating violence caused by the crisis in Syria.
The meeting, which will be held in Brussels on Tuesday, was invoked under Article 4 of the NATO treaty.
This allows any of the organisation's 28 members to request assistance when they consider "their territorial integrity, political independence or security is threatened".
SKY
Trouble ahead? Another little skirmish for our boys to be involved in?
[quote]Turkey has called for an extraordinary meeting of NATO to discuss the escalating violence caused by the crisis in Syria.
The meeting, which will be held in Brussels on Tuesday, was invoked under Article 4 of the NATO treaty.
This allows any of the organisation's 28 members to request assistance when they consider "their territorial integrity, political independence or security is threatened".[/quote]
[url=http://news.sky.com/story/1525638/turkey-calls-for-nato-meeting-over-syria-crisis]SKY[/url]
Trouble ahead? Another little skirmish for our boys to be involved in?
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Lex
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:42 pm
You mean it's happened before? Saddam didn't have massively powerful weapons that could be deployed within 45 minutes to destroy out beloved Blighty?
You mean it's happened before? Saddam didn't have massively powerful weapons that could be deployed within 45 minutes to destroy out beloved Blighty?
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