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It seems the ugly monstrosity on the Banbury road is non too popular. I still haven't driven past it yet, but I saw this picture and I can see why it's not been received too well.

I've never really understood why councils up and down the country, feel such a strong urge to add art to roundabouts. Apparently it is supposed to show the life and times of Shakespeare. Whether this is something you have time to study as you're driving around it remains to be seen.

I personally think it's entirely possible that if they'd found somewhere half-decent to put his £100,000 structure, rather then a roundabout, it may have stood a half decent chance of being popular. But art on roundabouts generally says to me 'tacky', 'pointless', 'art for art's sake', 'clashing hideously with it's surroundings'.

Apparently there was a public consultation about it, but I don't remember getting consulted, there was certainly nothing in the papers. Exactly what are the bare minimum requirements for a public consultation?

Author:	Will [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:47 am ]
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It seems the ugly monstrosity on the Banbury road is non too popular. I still haven't driven past it yet, but I saw this picture and I can see why it's not been received too well. I've never really understood why councils up and down the country, feel such a strong urge to add art to roundabouts. Apparently it is supposed to show the life and times of Shakespeare. Whether this is something you have time to study as you're driving around it remains to be seen. I personally think it's entirely possible that if they'd found somewhere half-decent to put his £100,000 structure, rather then a roundabout, it may have stood a half decent chance of being popular. But art on roundabouts generally says to me 'tacky', 'pointless', 'art for art's sake', 'clashing hideously with it's surroundings'. Apparently there was a public consultation about it, but I don't remember getting consulted, there was certainly nothing in the papers. Exactly what are the bare minimum requirements for a public consultation?

Author:	chillitt [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:00 am ]
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I'm sure it will be lovely when it gets a tarp thrown over it and some hippy types move in...

Author:	Will [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:46 pm ]
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I had the pleasure of driving round it yesterday, such was my disbelief I think I drove round it about 5 times. I was open minded to start with, thinking maybe it will look better in real life. How wrong could I have been? It looked considerably worse, it is such an eyesore and up close just looks even more tacky. Apparently people have been winding down their windows to shout abuse at the structure. I think this is a little unfair, as it's not the structure's fault it was designed badly and put there, it's doing the best it can.

Author:	cathidaw [ Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:41 pm ]
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I believe we get used to these things after a time.-maybe not this tho' imagine when it's all rusty.From your photo it looks like a framework of oan old nissan hut.. When Ifirst saw the 'Angel of the North' in Gateshead Icould not believe that it was a permanent structure, and the comments of the locals were unprintable. BUT, now it is accepted and they are very protective of it. When I go Ifeel at home with it.(perhaps relief that Iam nearly in Newcastle ) The blue ribbon along the Foleshill road too, Ithink is quite attractive and brightens up a drab grey road. I cant think why we dont get 'real 'statues any more. I suppose it's out of fashion now but Iam quite sure a Rodin type one would be appreciated by most people who like to recognise a sculpture. I'm not sure what or who I would choose to have though---we dont appear to have any great people any more. Any ideas? Iwould like to see a statue of Leofric and Godiva some where in Coventry---a really romantic one. I love the ones in Stratford Park.

Author:	Will [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:47 pm ]
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I've always liked the Angel of the north, it's a good piece of artwork. Had something to that calibre been built in Stratford, and not put on a meaningless roundabout in a meaningless place, I'm sure it would be welcomed a whole lot more. The "artist" of the Stratford "sculpture" has been defending his mostrosity, claiming it's relevant to Stratford because they had armillarys at the same time as Shakspeare. No wonder it cost £100,000 with such creative genius as that! He's even been arrogant enough to suggest that the sculpture will one day be loved as much as the Statue of Liberty! Oh, and the "public consultation" was actually just a planning permission notice, which of course is open to public consultation. Hardly a openly public consultation was it? Had it been a genuine public consultation, I imagine the proposal would have disappeared down another great 16th century invention; the 'flush toilet'! BBC NEWS \| England \| Coventry/Warwickshire \| Controversial sculpture defended

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Author:	Sandman [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:15 pm ]
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How can I put this without being to crude? I wouldn't waste my wee on this structure.

Author:	Shizara [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:03 pm ]
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chillitt wrote: I'm sure it will be lovely when it gets a tarp thrown over it and some hippy types move in... Now, there's an idea.... wonder if the council will charge them ground rent

Author:	Leofric [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:34 pm ]
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Will wrote: It seems the ugly monstrosity on the Banbury road is non too popular. I still haven't driven past it yet, but I saw this picture and I can see why it's not been received too well. I've never really understood why councils up and down the country, feel such a strong urge to add art to roundabouts. Apparently it is supposed to show the life and times of Shakespeare. Whether this is something you have time to study as you're driving around it remains to be seen. I personally think it's entirely possible that if they'd found somewhere half-decent to put his £100,000 structure, rather then a roundabout, it may have stood a half decent chance of being popular. But art on roundabouts generally says to me 'tacky', 'pointless', 'art for art's sake', 'clashing hideously with it's surroundings'. Apparently there was a public consultation about it, but I don't remember getting consulted, there was certainly nothing in the papers. Exactly what are the bare minimum requirements for a public consultation? It's because the country is now filled with towns that have become sprawls of dual carriagways, main roads and large roundabouts and pretty soulless and characterless. They're just trying to make these spaces look a bit more interesting. Not everyone likes the same things, which is unfortunate. If they put something on the roundabout you like, then there'd be other people who wouldn't like it. One of the roundabouts in Coventry has a blue twirl in it to represent Coventry's ribbon weaving heritage. Britain's towns and cities are filled with public art dating back centuries. It's not a new thing. I don't know why anyone's so bothered about it. The fact that Statford's been turned into a dreadful Ye Olde Stratford theme park, complete with US chain coffee bars is far more disgraceful than a piece of art on a roundabout!

Author:	Will [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:45 pm ]
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As far as I'm concerned, Ye Olde Stratford theme park, and the roundabout that talent forgot, are one in the same thing.

Author:	Madhatter [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:46 pm ]
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I agree with leofric on this, and I like it, I like it because it's different and it's not put somewhere were different matters. It's on a soulless roundabout. and lots of roundabouts now have something on them. Brightens my trips out up.

Author:	Madhatter [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:52 pm ]
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If you have an ye ol stratford theme park for tourists, which you should have as you're getting the biggest chunk of this counties funding, then it's going to pot a bit like the now defunct American adventure theme park did. The themeing's gone and the park need an extensive maintenance overhaul. A chrome bridge over the river is like putting a space ship ride in the middle of American adventure. I wonder if it will have the same effect on stratford.

Author:	Denny Crane [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:51 pm ]
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I like it. It has style and character, more than parts of Stratford have. Thumbs up to the council for this beautiful piece of architechture.

Author:	Shizara [ Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:17 pm ]
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Welcome to WarwickshireOnline Denny Crane. Have they started creating the bridge? I haven't been to Stratford for a while so haven't taken any photos there for a couple of years.

Author:	cathidaw [ Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:11 am ]
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I saw this 'sculpture last week. It looks like a giant half buried giroscope. A large Roden would look good, especially on a roundabout.Perhaps 'The Thinker' we could all circle the roundabout a few times while we are thinking about which way to go to get out of Ye Olde Sratford.

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Author:	Mari [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:56 am ]
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I was in Stratford about a month ago , where there was a group petitioning against this new 17th century geometry instrument sculpture. I must say I was one of those who did not like it.

Author:	Mari [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:00 am ]
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I also understand that there are plans to cut down trees in Bancroft gardens, to make a more open view to the theatre. I think this is a potty idea, and should leave the park in its lovely appearance as it is. I don't know how the Council can even contemplate such vandalism. What do others think on this matter ?